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Need some discussion to help figure out a problem:

What is the difference between an NPC and a Mob in Monster Play? Which template should be used for which creature and categorization?

In monster play, Tyrant Barashish is a target boss mob, not an interactive NPC yet our Mob template has no controls for dealing with faction based hostility of creatures. This means we'll need a new Mob template for Monster Play (no big deal -- I was planning on one anyway).

The real problems are do we want to keep NPC models as NPC's or make them Mobs?

  • Will this lead to confusion by players?
2 of the same type near each other, 1 is listed as an NPC, 1 as a Mob. One gives quests, one doesn't.
  • Will this cause searchers to have problems?
looking for Chieftains? We can put a category out there for them but 1 will show as an NPC, 1 as a Mob.

etc...

My current leanings are towards all named and humanoid types should be NPC's. All other types should be Mobs. This would make spiders Mobs but the named spiders NPC's; bears Mobs but the named bear an NPC; eagles Mobs but the named eagle an NPC; all hobbits, orcs, trolls, elves, etc.. would be NPC's.

Any thoughts, ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
--Eleazaros 11:34, 4 March 2008 (PST)

It's an interesting conundrum... there's Freep NPCs, Creep NPCs, creep-hostile mobs, freep-hostile mobs, all-hostile mobs... some of them also overlap. I think it makes sense the way you describe, although where to draw the line on things like wood-trolls and fell-spirits in the Delving could could be subjective. MysterX 15:30, 4 March 2008 (PST)
Don't go to the Delving!!! lol
Serious though... It's a problem. I just finished creating a new MP Mob template earlier that helps out a bit with auto-categorization of creatures and created a few entries with it.
Now compare these with:

etc...

I have several NPC classed "named" guys as type Mob. The Overseer is using the Mob Template. Visually, to a user, it doesn't look much different and I can easily make a LM "infobox" creature summary template to provide additional details that can be inserted onto/into either page but it is a bit of a quandary. Do I add the NPC's to the Creature Categories or what not...
--Eleazaros 22:57, 4 March 2008 (PST)
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